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Chatter from the sidelines

Chatter from the sidelines


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Drogba in Montreal

Drogba is playing for... Toronto Impact?

Kenedy will be the rare young talent that's being fast tracked to Chelsea's starting XI instead of being loaned out

He's from Brazil and all of nineteen

Manchester United lost to PSG. De Gea seemingly is still unsettled, yadda yadda yadda

Vidal with Bayern. Still can't believe it. But he'll fit in. Doesn't he speak German (from his former stint before going to Juventus?

Celtic still in with a chance for qualifying in Champions League

MLS all stars 2- 1 Spurs

MLS all stars got a penalty and Kaka scored

Spurs defence went begging (again!) when Villa scored. DeBeasley is still playing football?

That's Spurs 2nd kit in action. I don't mind it? Their third kit isn't purple. I'm disappointed

Read the commentary on this, and I have questions. What's an 'expansion team' if the MLS seems to keep on expanding? Aren't all teams expansion teams? Anyway, Kaka and Villa are the first two players from 'expansion' teams to score.

That being said, it seems that Delle Ali (lad from MK Dons, boo at MK Dons) impressed, so did Winks (academy), and Trippier (formerly of Burnley). Spurs is going to be the side of saplings in a forest of trees this season. The consensus is, although Spurs have done well in moving out the deadwood, they're still behind, because they need a second forward, and a holding midfielder (they tried Dier in the role, but he's too young and reckless)

Onomah is another academy lad plying his trade. He might go out on loan

Spurs has a growing fanbase in the US. It's not as numerous as Arsenal or Manchester United, but its growing. Spurs has a narrative of interest to the Americans. The NFL connection will help

OP: done! Cheers, jeers, corrections and commentary pushback, you know the drill

Date: 2015-07-30 08:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] untxi.livejournal.com
Drogba looks SO good. i have a thing for that particular face type (A$AP Rocky (https://38.media.tumblr.com/c3c07504b0361b26d994eb1bc4079f3e/tumblr_myeyxiKbGs1t162y2o1_500.gif) also comes to mind).

the wealth disparity in La Liga never stops shocking me. Elche's situation is heartbreaking; their president resigned last night, in a last desperate attempt to save the club from relegation. and there's SO MANY clubs at risk of insolvency over there, especially in the lower leagues...

link sharing with all spanish speakers: https://twitter.com/proyectopanenka - fabulous independent footie mag, A+ reporting! just ordered a physical copy.

oh, and this happened yesterday:

Nuno Silva, o português que se apresentou como reforço do clube espanhol Real Jaén com uma camisola de... Franco. pic.twitter.com/741Ehx1vjE (http://t.co/741Ehx1vjE)

— BOLA 24 (@bola24pt) July 29, 2015 (https://twitter.com/bola24pt/status/626370679227727872)

meet Nuno Silva, a portuguese player who was bought by Real Jaén (a segunda B club) & wore a Franco shirt to his presentation, lmao. out of ignorance, of course, and he already apologized. a portuguese not knowing what Franco looks like isn't exactly rare, i'm sure most spanish wouldn't be able to recognize Salazar either... but what's really baffling / funny to me is how no one from the club warned him!
Edited Date: 2015-07-30 08:40 am (UTC)

Date: 2015-07-30 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chuk-is-dazzled.livejournal.com
sad about la liga. things like that is why mls operates with parity/all teams get the same budget, well i think. i know theres a salary cap for players. their DP money confuses me cause la galaxy, toronto, and nycfc have DPs making 3, 6, and 9 mil like way more than some other teams DPs

Date: 2015-07-30 08:32 am (UTC)
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Includes Giroud being very much Giroud. And Per and Petr having a conversation one floor above everyone else. Also, Bellerin on a zebra.

Date: 2015-07-30 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the4thjuliek.livejournal.com
When Cech joined, I was hoping that he'd become pals with BFG and seeing both of them together like two elderly statesmen among a group of babies makes me very, very happy. Also, it seems that Bug Eyes' English has improved.

Date: 2015-07-30 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the4thjuliek.livejournal.com
Harry Kane's goal was a nice one!

Harry Kane, STOP IT. That isn't nice. http://t.co/dc3zvQMU6A (http://t.co/dc3zvQMU6A) https://t.co/uKK2v46H74 (https://t.co/uKK2v46H74)

— SB Nation Soccer (@SBNationSoccer) July 30, 2015 (https://twitter.com/SBNationSoccer/status/626575575801569280)


Europa League qualifying tonight! I hope BvB does well. We're playing Wolfsberger FC (from Austria). Fingers crossed for West Ham and the Saints too.

#MarioGomez (https://twitter.com/hashtag/MarioGomez?src=hash) joins #Beşiktaş (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Be%C5%9Fikta%C5%9F?src=hash) Welcome #MarioGomez (https://twitter.com/hashtag/MarioGomez?src=hash) #football (https://twitter.com/hashtag/football?src=hash) pic.twitter.com/sTjb8WqTSL (http://t.co/sTjb8WqTSL)

— Beşiktaş JK English (@BesiktasEnglish) July 30, 2015 (https://twitter.com/BesiktasEnglish/status/626657116141568000)


Rafa's response to Mou's remarks: "I am the coach of Real Madrid. I love football. I understand football and, therefore, only talk about football." (http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/real-madrid/rafa-benitez-responde-los-ataques-mourinho-4395683) (Link is in Spanish, sorry)

Some news about Platini: The Belgian Football Federation and the FA (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/29/fa-michel-platini-fifa-blatter-prince-ali) have pledged support for Platini.

Strong words from South Korean billionaire Chung Mong-Joon after officially declaring he too will run for the #FIFA (https://twitter.com/hashtag/FIFA?src=hash) presidency.

— DW Sports (@dw_sports) July 30, 2015 (https://twitter.com/dw_sports/status/626680373884387328)

Chung: "President Blatter is like a cannibal eating his parents and then crying he's an orphan. He tries to blame everybody except himself."

— DW Sports (@dw_sports) July 30, 2015 (https://twitter.com/dw_sports/status/626680475290075136)

RE: Ahh Platini

Date: 2015-07-30 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the4thjuliek.livejournal.com
Yup, Greg Dyke.

Date: 2015-07-30 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ananasonastick.livejournal.com
Jjfc, I don't want Nasri anywhere NEAR my precious team :<

also https://www.facebook.com/Juventus/posts/1190129641014263
Edited Date: 2015-07-30 11:17 am (UTC)

Date: 2015-07-30 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ananasonastick.livejournal.com
Do you follow him on Insta sis?

Date: 2015-07-30 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the4thjuliek.livejournal.com
Nope, I deleted my Instagram account like, 5 years ago but I know that he absolutely loves taking pictures of himself :D

Date: 2015-07-30 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chuk-is-dazzled.livejournal.com
i didnt know that the baseball all-star winners determined the world series location. lol i dont pay attention to baseball. i wouldnt mind the mls all-star game being east v west again again at least both sides would be more so matched. first half of the game was great, kaka-villa-dempsey, like i wish all those players were on 1 team. second half was so disjointed you could really tell it was a team of dudes whove only practiced once lol. it was a nice win so ill take it. apparently yedlin wasnt that great ): i hope he gets loaned out to a premier league side so i can still watch him (still holding hope for norwich)

kaka was so adorable in this post game interviews. like he and villa looked so excited it was cute

they interviewed gerrard before the match even tho he wasnt playing and they asked whats shocked him the most in mls so far and it was the weather lol. he talked about basically almost dying in houston death heat and humidity ha. (its a high of 100 today :''''''( which might be why we wont plat at home for the next 3 matches)

and expansion teams are just teams added to the league
besides like the original teams from the beginning of mls

carli lloyd scored a screamer last night, just carli lloyd things :) and her team won :D

Date: 2015-07-30 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the4thjuliek.livejournal.com
I think he'll be loaned out to a Championship side. He's still new to the PL and usually most PL teams don't take players on loan unless they have prior experience (like Jenkinson at West Ham) or they're from Chelsea (Lukaku, Victor Moses, etc).
Edited Date: 2015-07-30 01:09 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-07-30 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chuk-is-dazzled.livejournal.com
yeah the only reason i said premier league side is cause norwich is there now lol, but talks about that move are dissipating :/ probably cause their in premier league now hah

RE: Yedlin...

Date: 2015-07-30 01:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chuk-is-dazzled.livejournal.com
well i only look at reddit so idk what other americans think but over there theyre pretty much saying theres no way hes gonna stay/not be loaned out and they dont think he played that well, which is where i got my "apparently yedlin wasnt that great" lol i didnt really notice/pay attention to him oop. he'll end up back in the US is 3 years or will stay in championship

RE: Re: RE: Yedlin...

Date: 2015-07-30 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chuk-is-dazzled.livejournal.com
"he isn't where he should have been for his age"

thanks a lot mls and more so NCAA/college sports >:(
Edited Date: 2015-07-30 02:04 pm (UTC)

RE: Yedlin...

Date: 2015-07-30 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinkweism.livejournal.com
a lot of the lack of positional sense is that when he played for seattle & akron that they really didn't know where to place him. so that's why yedlin is shifted as a RB, wide midfielder, etc. he's really forced to play different positions based on who he is playing for - seattle would force him to play as a right back some matches and in others they made him play as a defensive midfielder. so his lack of sense is based on the fact that he's never had a true designated position TO play. klins is super guilty of reinforcing this in yedlin, bradley, zusi, etc. when they're called up for the mnt - he makes them rotate and tells them to do a good job & never gives them a formation to really stick to.

i'm so sensitive about yedlin because he is pretty remarkable with his speed, but it's obvious he really loves to come forward and press the attack. he shouldn't be a defender, but that's what coaches & co. play him as a lot of the time. he used to be a very offensive player, as his youth coaches said, but they gradually tried to shove him into that defending mold and it is not good for him.

yedlin does need to be loaned out, he def needs experience.

RE: Re: Yedlin...

Date: 2015-07-30 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinkweism.livejournal.com
yedlin needs something that allows him to use his "explosive speed" and ability to move along the flanks while still being able to defend those spots if he absolutely has to. i think yedlin has potential, i really do, so i'm a bit more open to him getting playing time before he's criticized for not being consistent/good enough. i mean, he began playing for the sounders' senior team at the age of 20 and was still inexperienced and tossed in to whichever position was open and vacant... so no one has ever really given him a definite "you're X player" or "you need to ensure that you cover Y area at all times." idk, i really love him and i think he needs time doing more than just training.

i think his coaches have done him dirty in the past by forcing him to play a variety of positions without ever telling him what his weaknesses were as a defender & how to fine tune those abilities. i don't know much about tottenham, so i won't pretend to but the american system does not favor prospective soccer players because they spend their best/peak years in college rather than doing what other leagues do. usually players in other countries are playing for senior squads at, what, 18? 20? most of the players here are still in college, going to school, traveling with their team & playing against other colleges.

yedlin is gonna be behind because of a list of reasons, just like other us-based players. his place should have been identified from an earlier age but that wasn't the case. now he's just a mash of various abilities that don't translate well to one position that he's usually played in. and the inexperience comes at the fact that most yedlin's age are only being drafted right now into the mls. that's the problem, but it's another can of worms when discussing that, honestly.

RE: Yedlin...

Date: 2015-07-30 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the4thjuliek.livejournal.com
His style of play is a bit like Bellerin's, from what I've seen so far. Hector is also extremely fast, attacks a lot (see his goal against Liverpool) but he's able to track back quickly and tackle well. Although, in Hector's case, his situation is opposite of that of Yedlin's. Wenger converted him from a winger to right-back and it's turned out splendidly. I think Pochettino senses that he could do the same with Yedlin, with some loan experience first (Hector was loaned out to Watford and did quite well with them, I think).

Date: 2015-07-30 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinkweism.livejournal.com
carli is fucking killing it in the nwsl. i am so super proud of her, i might need to start stanning houston (which would make sense in my head since i used to live there lmao)


the commentator was so excited, i LOVE when comms get stoked about the women

Date: 2015-07-30 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinkweism.livejournal.com
yeah, the mls all-star game used to be a west vs. east kinda thing, except 1998's was unique in that they had mls usa players vs. mls abroad players - interesting stuff. i think the east/west mls all-star game would be pretty neat because there's more of a balance to everyone in the mls getting a shot, not just who is the top/popular group of players atm. inviting the guests from 2005 to now, i think was a pretty good business plan in that it really began to "grow" the game & interest here in the US. at first the matches were only 20K, but they were playing everton/west ham, and when they got united - it went up the next year straight to 70K.

idrc about baseball because it makes me want to fall asleep, but i know a lot of mls supporters would never like the idea of whoever of the east/west coast match to have the advantage of deciding where the mls cup is played. the biggest issue has to do with traveling within the us, which is a nightmare/pain in the butt because this country is so freakin' large. but i do feel like the way the mls cup is currently set up with the team having the highest points being able to host the cup on their home territory is kinda harsh, but then again i don't think we have enough supporters around random parts of the country for the mls to have a "neutral" venue when it comes to the cup. right now i think the format just needs to stay as it is because the mls is still a work in progress & we aren't at the level of the PL/Liga/Serie A/Bundesliga in regards to being able to convince fans to travel far to a neutral venue for both teams. dempsey is right that the west/east would be interesting, but i think we need a little more development in getting a better "balance" between the coasts (because lbr, the west conference easily beats out the east each season) before we start changing the setup.

and expansion teams is just a fancy term for teams that are created in entirely new areas because of the shifting demographics of that area & the rising popularity and potential that the location holds. atlanta united fc are the newest expansion team, as orlando were bc they were in areas that the mls analysts, marketing team, & etc. acknowledged as being "areas of interest" where soccer was beginning to take root and these cities/communities give them financial opportunities to capitalize on that.

RE: Thanks for the detailed explantation

Date: 2015-07-30 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinkweism.livejournal.com
no problem! the mls has two conferences set up in the MLS. once again, an inheritance/reflection of other american sports - but the nba/nfl/ncaa are a lot more headache inducing so the mls is easier to understand. the west & east are basically the teams that make up each division of the conference, so

west: colorado rapids, real salt lake, fc dallas, san jose earthquakes, houston dynamo, seattle sounders, la galaxy, sporting kanas city, portland timbers, cancouver whitecaps

east: chicago fire, new york fc, columbus crew, new york red bulls, dc united, orlando city, montreal impact, philadelphia union, new england revolution, toronto fc


the expansion teams so far are: atlanta (2017), los angeles fc (2018), minnesota (2018, but will play in 2017 if la fc isn't ready) & miami (tba). florida is considered part of the eastern conference, as is the south.

but lol if you want to introduce "south" conference, northeast, midwest, etc.... i invite you to take a look at the various conferences in the nba, for example. the nba operates on a generic "west/east conference" but they also have the subsets of atlantic, central, southeast, northwest, pacific, & southwest. do you really want the mls to do that? D:

RE: Re: Thanks for the detailed explantation

Date: 2015-07-30 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinkweism.livejournal.com
of course! no, the mls is really an amalgamation of the other american sports & that of european football so i can see where people outside the us would need to scratch their head and try to imagine why it is the way it is. but like i said, if people are really confused... i don't mind answering questions because i love the fact that people are taking an interest in our baby league. the league is the same age as me pretty much so i always feel bad that people make fun of it when it's only just a bit more than 20 years old.

lol i think an outsider coach would be hilaaaarious. when i think of it, i always remember the spoof video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KeG_i8CWE8) of the american coach in london with tottenham. we have a lot of rules & structural difference but i think it works because the us is an entirely different market & with fans who are already used to the "american way" with sports... it wouldn't work any other way. lol, regular american fans would probably blanch at the lack of playoffs and need to "earn" a spot to play to win the league title.

right now, don garber is really set on having 24 teams operating in the mls without going defunct or needing to be shut down/liquidated (like with chivas usa). as much as they're looking forward to atlanta being a part of the league, i think the team that will make/break the mls & the decision of expanding to more than 24 teams is gonna be miami. this is the expansion team that they're taking a risk on bc they feel like the miami demographic is really positive, but they also don't know if that's enough to keep the expansion team afloat - despite beckham's involvement.

i think the biggest issue atm for miami, beckham & co. is the location of a potential stadium. they want to build an entirely new stadium but the zoning issues are a mess. they might need to relocate home owners and this is has the potential to turn into a legal battle. which is why garber is really watching the miami franchise.

Re: Thanks for the detailed explantation

Date: 2015-07-30 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinkweism.livejournal.com
lol, i loved the video because they did that part where they compared premier league teams to nfl teams - especially the dallas cowboys - and it's pretty accurate. and the actor is jason sudeikis, he's a pretty decent comedian/actor, i like him.

florida does have orlando city, but miami is about three and a half hours away from orlando - at the very least; i'd say the location differences would be the same as newcastle to manchester. so they're kinda separate of their own. orlando has their own NBA team, as does miami - so i would see why it would make sense for them to want to open an expansion team in miami when lots of people support the dolphins & heat. like i said - here in the us, people are fiercely patriotic but they're also very attached to representing their "city" or region, so to speak. so miami and orlando are def not close enough to overlap that territory, a 3 hr drive on a regular basis to see a florida mls team is really excruciating - especially when traffic is horrendous & public transporation is really lacking here in the us.

and california has two mls teams, as do texas & now new york too. let me tell you that the california clasico is a real thing and the rivalry between the san jose earthquakes & la galaxy is INTENSE. not as intense as la's town rivalry between their college football teams of usc and ucla, but the "clasico" here in cali is a big friggin' deal. not sure about texas and ny, but i can see it happening. the game between san jose and la definitely bring out the fans who, like said, really love to represent their city.

california fans go hard for their teams during these rivalries. even though seattle and portland are in different states, their rivalry is really insane as well. seattle fans have always been the loudest of the mls bunch so we're catching up when it comes to having multiple teams. los angeles is getting their expansion team with LA FC and i know lots of people are excited about the potential for that to become a crazy rivalry & scene for southern california.

Re: Thanks for the detailed explantation

Date: 2015-07-30 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinkweism.livejournal.com
and regarding playoffs, the MLS has a structure that doesn't let the team with the most points at the end of the season hoist the league title. to win the MLS Cup, the team has to make it through a series of games against 11 other teams.

basically there are 12 teams in the playoffs - 6 from the western conference and 6 from the eastern. they play in their own separate conference bracket first, so the western teams will go head to head with one another & the eastern teams will do the same. so the 6 teams from the west will try to beat one another to make it to the western conference final, and the 6 teams from the east will compete to make it to their own eastern conference final.

after a team has won their respective conference final, the western winner & eastern winner will go to the MLS Cup final against one another. and that's how they decide who really wins the league in the MLS. but lol, if you really need help visualizing this, i can draw up a mock playoff scenario with teams so you can see it work!

i kinda like the playoffs situation because it gives 6 teams from each conference to compete and earn the chance to win the league. so teams that sit "mid-table" in their own conference can actually come out and win the league despite not playing as consistent as the top mls teams.

Date: 2015-07-30 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinkweism.livejournal.com
and i am so happy for drogba! montreal are a mid-table team atm (last season was atrocious for them, so being mid-table in the western conference is a good start right now!), but i know a big pull for drogba was the location & familiarity of being able to speak french. i know that has to be of comfort - finally being able to speak your mother tongue without feeling self-conscious about needing to speak perfect english or what have you. ngl, i'm super happy for montreal because i know they were really pulling through and hoping that drogba would come to play for them. they could use the publicity and popularity so i am sending him nothing but good vibes all the way.

and LOL, idk if anyone saw this (my mom heard this on the radio while she was helping a patient & called me about it), but las vegas has a mob museum. i don't gamble or smoke, so when i go to vegas - i am all about shopping & visiting their museums, collections and exhibits; they have some amazing ones and the mob museum is definitely one of them. but anyway, the museum is going to host a permanent display of FIFA's fuckery called "the beautiful game turns ugly (http://www.espnfc.us/blog/the-toe-poke/65/post/2540572/fifa-corruption-exhibition-set-to-open-in-las-vegas)" and it opens in september. so i am definitely going to be going back again later this year to check this out and see what they have to put in the collection.

Date: 2015-07-30 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the4thjuliek.livejournal.com
Lol, I saw an article about the FIFA display in the Guardian! Will you take pictures and share them with us? XD
Edited Date: 2015-07-30 03:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-07-30 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinkweism.livejournal.com
i'm genuinely curious to see what it is they decided or are going to place into the exhibit. lmao, like, i really want some concrete evidence like photos of their backhand deals, negl - but that would be too much & perfect.

but of course! i need to order a new camera battery charger since i lost mine apparently, but you know i will be sharing the goods, regardless of what they are, for the LOL factor

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