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Reaction from Singapore football fans on billionaire Peter Lim’s interest in English football giants Liverpool has been swift.

The most common questions: “What’s a Man Utd fan doing trying to buy arch-rivals Liverpool?” and “What can he bring to the table?”

According to AP reports on Tuesday, the 57-year-old Singaporean “remisier king” is set to raise his original bid of  US$476 million (S$623 million)  to buy over ailing club Liverpool, whose prized player assets include Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres. The club are currently languishing in 18th place in the league. 

Lim, who’s known to be a huge football fan, is ranked as the eighth-richest Singaporean with an estimated wealth of S$2 billion by Forbes.

But what rankles many Reds fans is that he is known to be a die-hard fan of English arch-rival club, Manchester United.

Lim has exclusive rights to own and operate a chain of Manchester United-themed restaurants and bars in Asia. Singapore-listed fashion retailer FJ Benjamin , in which Lim is the second-largest shareholder, also previously operated the Manchester United Theatre of Dreams store at Orchard Parade Hotel.

Football fans Yahoo! Singapore spoke to questioned Lim’s motives.

Manager Desmond Tan, 34, who has been supporting the Reds for over 20 years, said,”How can someone with ties to Manchester United want Liverpool to do well? It’s seriously conflicting. If he even wants to be taken seriously, he needs to give up his Man Utd ties first.” 

But what if Lim, who is known to be a shrewd investor, has the resources to turn the debt-saddled Anfield giants around? 

Tan replied, “Will you let your wife sleep with one rich businessman like in the show “Indecent Proposal” just so that you can stay afloat?  I cannot accept it. If the deal goes through, I will still support the Reds, but I will not be supporting anything he does. Why can’t he buy Manchester United instead? Don’t they have debts too?”

Another Liverpool fan, Amir Syarifuddin, 36, said Lim deserved a chance.

“If he is a businessman, then the success of the club will always come first so he will do everything to see the club succeed,” said the engineer, who’s a Reds fan for over 15 years.

Polytechnic lecturer, Edwin Lim, who’s a die-hard Red Devil, offered a different perspective.

“It just goes to show Peter Lim is a football fan first and foremost, and then an EPL fan. I hope Liverpool fans can finally stop saying that we Man Utd fans do not care about Liverpool at all. We know that if Liverpool didn’t exist, we wouldn’t have gotten to where we are today,” he said.

Another football fan, Gabriel Wong, 25, who doesn’t support either Liverpool or Man United, said, “From a neutral standpoint, the bid by Peter Lim may seem more attractive because, at least, he’s willing to fork out his own cash and stake his personal fortune in the club. For all you know, accepting the US bid might lead to a similar situation with George Gillett and Tom Hicks later on.”  

The buyout talks involving Liverpool is rapidly turning into a complex tug-of-war with several parties involved.

Lim was reportedly told by text message last week that Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton had rejected his offer in favour of one from New England Sports Ventures (NESV), which is funded by American billionaire John Henry and which also owns US Major League Baseball side, the Boston Red Sox.

The Red Sox ownership group has now signed a binding agreement, but current club co-owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr. are trying to block the sale because they say it undervalues the club.

The Royal Bank of Scotland, which holds the bulk of Liverpool’s US$453 million debt, has since obtained an interim injunction preventing the co-owners from firing board members for accepting the sale.

Soccernet also reports that NESV has no intention to let Lim muscle his way into deal even with a new improved offer.

The son of a fishmonger, Lim made his fortune as a stock broker and became a private investor in 1996. He keeps a relatively low profile and is media-shy but his key stock holdings include stakes in Wilmar International, the world’s largest palm oil firm, and regional education provider Informatics, which he turned around after the firm had fallen on hard times.

Earlier this month, he invested about US$100 million in Global Logistic Properties, a giant provider of warehouse facilities in China and Japan that is majority owned by Singapore sovereign wealth fund GIC.

People who know Lim said his interest in Liverpool stemmed from his love of soccer, and he recently donated S$10 million ($7.65 million) to the Singapore Olympics Foundation for scholarships for promising young athletes from poor families.

Personally I'm happy cos I'm from Singapore! though I admit I've never heard of him before O.O but he seems like a nice guy? idk I think NESV will still be a better owner.

source: http://sg.yfittopostblog.com/2010/10/12/whats-a-man-u-fan-doing-trying-to-buy-liverpool/


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Date: 2010-10-12 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melj1213.livejournal.com
Can you please edit "Man U" to read Man Utd? I know it's direct from the source but the term isn't respectful to Utd fans at all and we don't use it here

Thanks :)

Date: 2010-10-12 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runandtelldat.livejournal.com
“What’s a Man U fan doing trying to buy arch-rivals Liverpool?”

It's a trap. Hostile takeover. From beneath you it devours. Etc.

Date: 2010-10-12 08:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] homunculus-10.livejournal.com
Completely agree. Etc.

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Date: 2010-10-12 08:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crouchea.livejournal.com
I didn't even both reading that article after I saw the headline. Call me a footballing snob, but any footballing journalist worth his salt should know damn well that you don't ever use "Man U", in any kind of context.

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Date: 2010-10-12 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sukha4.livejournal.com
I think it's strange the news came just before the court date. Anyway, if we win at court, the deal is done no matter how many more bids are there, right?

Date: 2010-10-12 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fanny-keats.livejournal.com
Yes! its a done deal

Date: 2010-10-12 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com
some fan he is

Date: 2010-10-12 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fanny-keats.livejournal.com
It just goes to show Peter Lim is a football fan first and foremost, and then an EPL fan

I cant comprehend

Date: 2010-10-12 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamtheenemy.livejournal.com
That also doesn't answer the question of why he would buy Liverpool if he supports Manchester United, which was the question posed. So all around, just a really stupid response.

Date: 2010-10-12 08:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alana2x1.livejournal.com
Urgh! Too many ball players now, if you get my meaning. It's turning into one big, confused mess. Just take a swift win in court today, kthx. I want H&G out yesterday!

Also, it doesn't make much sense having such a supposedly big Man Utd fan bidding for us. Doesn't he know his own club is languishing down the same debt-ridden path? Why doesn't he step in there instead? (if that's even possible, I've no idea really what the current situation with the Glazers is; too busy with my own club, lol).

Date: 2010-10-12 08:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fanny-keats.livejournal.com
I hate the Glazers .. seriously I heard this talk yesterday with a financial guy and my head just went on a spin knowing they'll take half a billion from Man Utd in 5 years

Date: 2010-10-12 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibikaya.livejournal.com
Isn't he better off trying to buy Man Utd?

Date: 2010-10-12 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alana2x1.livejournal.com
Our -hopefully- new owner has spoken up!

http://twitter.com/John_W_Henry

Prayer circle rn! Can't believe my mum's making me go out to Chester for the day. At least it'll maybe distract me a little, I guess. But I will be constantly on my phone, checking for news.

Date: 2010-10-12 09:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sockisdead.livejournal.com
AWW! This is adorable. :(

PRAYER CIRCLE~~~

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Date: 2010-10-12 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slashxwhoreorly.livejournal.com
Has the hearing started?
uggh i wish i could stay home for the results

Date: 2010-10-12 10:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikaylex.livejournal.com
I feel like I should clarify. I'm from Singapore and almost all the United fans here refer to United as Man U. I am positive that they do not mean anything bad by it, it is just common to call them that in this part of the world. I only learnt that it was an insulting term through this community and I have told some of my friends that it is considered an insult elsewhere.

I'm not saying that it is right in any way, but just that the offensive chants are not common knowledge here.

This article was written by a Singaporean which is probably why U was used instead of Utd.

Date: 2010-10-12 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crystalzxzx.livejournal.com
yeah I agree with what you said. I'm a Man Utd fan from Singapore but even some of my friends who are Man Utd fans call our club "Man U" too.

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From: [identity profile] shadow-sea.livejournal.com
Case begins in packed Court 16- Philip Snowdon QC for RBS -H&G in "breach of contract" guilty of "breath-taking arrogance" RBS accuse Hicks and Gillett of trying to "profit from the confusion their actions have caused."

Date: 2010-10-12 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadow-sea.livejournal.com
RBS appeal to judge to 'restore a clearly constituted and functioning board' today. 'It cannot wait and it would be wrong for Mr Hicks and Gillett to profit from their tactics.'

Date: 2010-10-12 10:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pinkprincessnat.livejournal.com
I'm confused with this whole situation & I've been too busy to keep up with the saga. What happened to the US people buying it, something about a court date? I think he deserves a chance.

Date: 2010-10-12 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acceptance.livejournal.com
PRAYER CIRCLE

Date: 2010-10-12 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alana2x1.livejournal.com
LOL! ILYRN :D

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Date: 2010-10-12 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anais-molko.livejournal.com
those cunts admitted to breach of contract now please kill them.

oh and for them there's nooooooooooooooooooooo rush.... you can clearly see they want us to get the 9 points and destroy us completely


BITCHES

Date: 2010-10-12 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadow-sea.livejournal.com
The bit about there being no rush is fucking ridiculous.
They blatantly want us to go into administration in the hope that it will make NESV not want to buy us any more.

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Date: 2010-10-12 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anais-molko.livejournal.com
11.55am: Back in court: "RBS reveals that it is clause C3 of the sale agreement with the bank that Hicks and Gillett signed in April 2010 that they have breached in regards to trying to change the board."



so they breached it a few times... why are we even here then why can't we just get rid of them and sue them?

Date: 2010-10-12 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acceptance.livejournal.com
this is so perfect

Date: 2010-10-12 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] problematique.livejournal.com
GET THE FUCK OUT OF LIVERPOOL YOU GREEDY BASTARDS

Date: 2010-10-12 11:17 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-10-12 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alana2x1.livejournal.com
Written my support on the insides of my wrist in sharpie. Going to Chester now. Really really hope some progress in the right direction is made while I'm out. (I will be on my phone as much as possible without pissing off my mum though, lol.)

Date: 2010-10-12 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiveto-midnight.livejournal.com
haha coincidence, i've written / people have written lots of things on my wrist too today, it's like a board of small lfc messages on there

Date: 2010-10-12 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anais-molko.livejournal.com
12.06pm: Despite his new offer, Lim's chances of buying Liverpool are slim. Lim is only likely to gain control of Liverpool if Hicks loses in court and RBS put the club into administration or NESV choose to pull out. NESV's agreement with the LFC board is legally binding, so a higher bid cannot be accepted. Lim might also try to offer Hicks the funds needed to pay off the debt and take control surreptitiously, although this would seem like a very risky strategy. Lim, by the way, is a Manchester United fan and owns a string of Manchester United themed bars, the Reds cafes, in Asia.





BYE NOW

Date: 2010-10-12 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acceptance.livejournal.com
wow he can kindly fuck off now

Date: 2010-10-12 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] problematique.livejournal.com
http://tinychat.com/lawandorderlfc
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