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Thomas Hitzlsperger has opened the door for many gay footballers says his friend Arne Friedrich. However, the change of a homophobic climate needs time.
by Steffen Dobbert


ZEIT ONLINE : Mr. Friedrich …


Arne Friedrich: … Do not even ask. Of course this everything-but-football-column interview can only be about Thomas Hitzlsperger.

ZEIT ONLINE : Please do not stop .

Friedrich:  In the football business you have very many acquaintances , but few friends. I count Thomas as my friend. I last spoke to him about two days ago, nothing special. He only told me about his sexuality a few weeks ago. I did not know that he would do this interview now to address the public. Since Wednesday, I ‘ve gotten an enormous number of media inquiries myself, and as many Twitter reactions as never before. The need to talk about Thomas seems to be very big. It caused quite an uproar.

ZEIT ONLINE : Is the attention justified?

Friedrich: For me: absolutely not! I hope that Thomas with his openness contributes to the fact that the sexuality, whether hetero - or homosexualilty, of a man in the football business is quite normal and not worth mentioning. It’s simply bad that such a topic was - or is - a taboo in football.

ZEIT ONLINE : When will the taboo be broken ?

Friedrich:  No one can predict the exact moment. Thomas has now made ​​a very good, important and courageous decision.  I support him completely , and I have already told him that. Especially as professional footballer , when you are already under great pressure to perform well, that can be quite difficult . Thomas has made the right step , and the timing, so close to Sochi, is good too. He has opened a door for many others. Even active footballers could now easily speak openly about their sexuality after the many positive reactions.

ZEIT ONLINE : You’ve played in the United States before your career ended. Is the debate there different from here?

Friedrich: Definitely. When I played in Chicago, the active MLS player Robbie Rogers talked about his homosexuality . He has received nothing but positive feedback.  It was considered normal in the entire league that a player outs himself.

ZEIT ONLINE : Thomas Hitzlsperger also criticized  jokes and insults that are made in groups of footballers in the interview. You played with him in the national team. Do you remember those moments?

Friedrich:  As Thomas said , footballers sometimes speak of a ” gay pass ” without meaning it to be offensive.  Some swearwords have established themselves , unfortunately. But I think Thomas knew how to handle that. But in the clubs in which I played , homosexuality has never been discussed , neither positive nor negative. So I actually do not know any gay former teammates. I only learned about Thomas about six or seven weeks ago, when he confided in me. Within the team and the dressing room you do not talk about such things. On the other hand it is often talked about Women - because everyone just assumes that everyone is heterosexual.

ZEIT ONLINE : If a player wants to talk about his sexuality with the coach – are there obstacles at first?

Friedrich:  I assume that every coach in the Bundesliga or national team would understand that and would protect the playe if necessary.  I would assess any of my coaches from Joachim Löw to Felix Magath to act that way. I hope I’m not mistaken. Sexuality has nothing to do with football.

ZEIT ONLINE : Could it be that we are hearing a lot of encouraging words from officials and coaches, but that reality in the daily life in the football pub or in the stadium stands is an entirely different world?

Friedrich : Of course there are still some idiots who talk shit. Homophobia still dominates in some areas of society. The change of a collective climate needs time. Now, when important officials talk on TV , the conditions at the county-League places or in the stands will not change immediately. With the help of Thomas the subject now experiences an impulse , and perhaps thereby finally something changes.

ZEIT ONLINE : Will gay professional footballers no longer have to have alibi girlfriends soon?

Friedrich : Is that so? If so, this will probably only change when an active player is out and that is no longer considered  sensational, but normal. This time will come.

ZEIT ONLINE : How important in this development is the media and their approach to the issue?

Friedrich : I can understand that the media reports so intense now. It’s their mission to spread news that interest many people. However, it is also always grist to the mill of those who really want to speculate whether one is heterosexual or homosexual. This is also in the case about me for years now. That my girlfriend and I were confronted about that again and again was annoying sometimes. But each soccer player is also a private person. I am heterosexual. But if I were gay, now would be a good time to say it out in public.

- Source (x)

Other reactions:

Before his interview, Arne already showed his support yesterday via twitter:

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As did Lukas Podolski:

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And Christoph Metzelder:

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"Starting today, we’ll have to address the topic “homosexuality in football” in all seriousness - not only “theoretically”! My respect and admiration go to Thomas Hitzlsperger!"

Even non-football-celebrity George Takei (Hikari Sulu on Star Trek) commented:

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(Well excuse my inner nerd, I had to add that)

On the dfb.de-Homepage we could read the following statements:

Thomas Hitzlsperger was always a role model during his time as a national player, before whom I had the highest respect - and this respect has now grown even further.
He has decided to make the step to go out in public, and I stand by our word, that he shall receive every possible support from us.
DFB-president Wolfgang Niersbach
While Thomas was still an active nationalteamplayer, we had no knowledge of his homosexuality. He approached us only after his career ended to inform us. That he now also admits his homosexuality in public deserves recognition and respect. I welcome this step, we will give him all the assistance so he can continue his courageous way.
Nationalteam-manager Oliver Bierhoff

Date: 2014-01-09 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackjedii.livejournal.com

Friedrich : Of course there are still some idiots who talk shit.


That's poetry Arne. <3

I am happy that Thomas was able to confide in him. That's awesome.

Date: 2014-01-09 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faith47.livejournal.com
bahaha...I thought the same thing. The whole interview was very formal, and then that one sentence... (=

Date: 2014-01-09 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenny-jenkins.livejournal.com
My bbs <3

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Once again - amazing A++++++ translation of a difficult text.

I bow down to you!

<3!

And Arne - I love you. I'm so sorry I never came to see you in the MLS. I suck and I'm disorganized, what can I say?

Date: 2014-01-09 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenny-jenkins.livejournal.com
I have this sudden ridiculous urge to spam German bbs of the past and present.

It must a world cup year...

Date: 2014-01-09 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chocoholic-81.livejournal.com
very good translation.

Somehow I find myself missing supporting statements from other active NT-players.
Until now, it was only Poldi who tweeted his support.
And I can't imagine, that they don't really care...
Hmm

Date: 2014-01-09 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chocoholic-81.livejournal.com
current, that's the word ;-)
tbh, from this ***hole Lahm I'm not expecting anything. If I just remember his goddamn awful book!!
I really don't like him.

But Idk, it would be really nice to read something from Per or Schweini or Sami. (I already wrote on Per's FB-wall)

Date: 2014-01-09 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chocoholic-81.livejournal.com
could be.
Arne and Thomas being friends was pretty obvious for the media.
But Thomas and Lukas could have developed a friendship "behind the cameras"

Date: 2014-01-10 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackjedii.livejournal.com
Just looking tonight Lahm's Twitter (which is I expect managed for him) posted an article here (http://de.nachrichten.yahoo.com/hintergrund-letzte-tabu-fu%C3%9Fballs-gefallen-152559024.html). Nothing from Scweinsteiger or Per yet.

Date: 2014-01-09 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackjedii.livejournal.com
Tbf the Bayern boys are in training camp right now so they are probably on communication blackout

Same with Schalke. I will wait and see. Surprised there hasnt been anything from Per yet

Date: 2014-01-10 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackjedii.livejournal.com
It really just depends. Obvs. not all the players may or may not even have the time or like social media.

To compare - Poldi really REALLY started Facebooking like crazy when he joined Arsenal which probably had more to do with the fact that his English was getting better and he is such a big PR boon for them. Before that his staff / PR dept. did a lot of his posts for him.

I didn't follow Per for a good while but I'd imagine it's the same thing - he didn't be super-social media until Arsenal.

Thomas (Muller) AFAIK doesn't actually make Facebook posts at all. When he posts, it;s his PR doing it for him. Which is funny cause his English posts are baaad.

I don't think Lahm has a (personal non-PR) Twitter and he rarely updates his Facebook anymore. Neuer mainly does post-game updates, his charity, and advertisements with Adidas. Benedikt Howedes is really chatty but he's at a training camp in Qatar.

So we'll see. Because we consistently use social media doesn't mean that everyone does!

Date: 2014-01-10 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenny-jenkins.livejournal.com
Mueller doesn't know Hitzlsperger - he was a 2010 boy. Also didn't overlap at Bayern - far too young.

Benedikt Hoewedes is another post-2006er boy.

The rest you mentioned all did - Lahm, Per - and Poldi...

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...was of course besties with him (Who isn't he besties with?)

Schweini knew him, of course. So did Ballack - which is where the comments of his agent in 2010 make commenting awkward...

Date: 2014-01-10 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackjedii.livejournal.com
Oh i know. I am mainly talking about the Social Media Habits of the Rare German Nationalfootballer

Which is to say - I'm not entirely surprised they haven't said much yet.

And of course he is friends with Poldi. Only bad people are not friends with Poldi!

Date: 2014-01-09 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kata-c.livejournal.com
So, my respect for this man (both of them, actually) suddenly has grown exponentially

Date: 2014-01-10 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rare-lj.livejournal.com
I shouldn't feel so happy about someone acting like a decent human being, but as Arne said, there are idiots out there. Reading this is a breath of fresh air.

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