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Interesting and thought-provoking article in The Guardian about football fixtures, and whether or not the order of them affect the final outcome of the league table: 

Chelsea sit top of the table after five matches, and Sir Alex Ferguson dismisses it because they've had an easy start (West Bromwich Albion, Wigan Athletic, Stoke City, West Ham United, Blackpool). West Ham lie bottom, and Avram Grant explains it by their tough start (Aston Villa, Bolton Wanderers, Manchester United, Chelsea, Stoke). Liverpool fans see their side fifth from bottom and hope it's because they've begun with Arsenal, Manchester City, West Brom, Birmingham and Manchester United.

But given you have to play everybody twice, does it matter? Will the boost to morale Chelsea have presumably enjoyed in racking up a goal difference of 21-1 carry them inevitably to glory? Will West Ham, crushed by early failure, suffer the sort of psychological collapse that led to Derby County and Sunderland (twice) breaking records for sustained awfulness?

Well, perhaps, perhaps not. A lead can be pressure in itself, and a string of tough games in a row, particularly if interspersed with hard Champions League games, could be debilitating. Once momentum goes, the decline can be rapid, as the examples of Newcastle in 1995-96, Manchester United in 1985-86 and Ipswich Town in 1980-81 show. Then again, the size of modern squads and the greater gulf between the quality of teams at the top and at the bottom probably insulates Chelsea for that sort of collapse. And while Derby had five points after 10 games in 2007-08 and went on to collect only six more, the previous season Sheffield United had had only six points but took a further 32 from the remaining 28 matches.

Rollercoaster of promotion
Is it, though, better to play certain sides at certain times of the season? Managers of teams in the Champions League always make a great fuss about whom and where they play after a European break, and that's something to which we'll hopefully return later in the season, but for now let's look at two theories about who it's best to play near the beginning of the season.

Is it a disadvantage to play promoted teams early? At first sight, it seems to make sense that it is best to avoid newly promoted teams near the start of the season. After all, they'll be high on the adrenaline of promotion, and the gloomy mundanity of repeated defeats won't have had time to take effect. Home crowds, delirious just to be in the Premier League, will be large and noisy, before settling to acceptance later in the season. Newly promoted sides tend to lack depth, so the injuries and suspensions that inevitably occur will impact on them more than on larger squads; get them early, though, and that won't have had time to take effect.

And then there are our memories of Hull City's start in their first season up, when they won away at Arsenal, or of Burnley last season beating Manchester United at Turf Moor. After Tottenham Hotspur had drawn at West Brom (and Sunderland lost there) it was said that that was a tricky fixture to get early in the season, almost as though it were axiomatic that you don't want to get a newly promoted side away from home early on. It feels like it should be true.

If points were distributed evenly over a season, after five home games you would expect a side to have picked up 26.32% of the total points it won at home over the course of the season. If they really do perform better early on, they should pick up a higher percentage of their points in the first five games; over the last 10 seasons, newly promoted teams have won 27.31% of their home points in those first five matches – higher than the expected figure, but not extraordinarily so. Burnley, notably, took 12 of the 26 home points they won last season in those first five games, but after five home games in 2004-05, Norwich had just three, and went on to pick up a further 26 in the 14 that remained.

What if we take the home element out of the equation? Is it any harder to play newly promoted teams in the first 10 games of the season? Not really (and given Blackpool and West Brom were part of Chelsea's supposedly easy start, that was already on some level acknowledged). Again, if points were distributed evenly you'd expect a side to win 26.32% of its total points in the first 10 matches; newly promoted sides over the past 10 seasons have picked up 27.49%. Hull took 20 of 35 from its first 10 games in 2008-09, but Leicester City had only five of 33 in 2003-04.

Rhythm of winning
Is it better to play a Big Four side early on? Again, it seems to make sense that it's better to play the best early on, before they've hit their rhythm and while new signings are taking time to settle. It feels as though there ought to be a greater randomness early on, and that should be of advantage to weaker sides, equalising the contest. And, as Ferguson and Arsenal's Arsène Wenger are forever telling us, it's important for top sides to peak at the right time, not in August but in March.

Again, it's easy to remember examples of Big Four teams slipping up early on – not just Burnley beating Manchester United and Hull winning at Arsenal, but Chelsea losing at Wigan or United dropping points at home to Reading and Newcastle. And again, the statistics suggest the theory is a myth.

The whole notion of a Big Four, of course, was called into doubt last season, and we may soon have an acknowledged Big Something-else, so here I've looked at the four seasons between 2005-06 and 2008-09, when the same four teams – Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United – did finish in the top four positions. From the first six games, if points were distributed evenly, you'd expect teams to pick up 6/38 = 15.89% of the points they go on to win over the course of the season. Over that four-season spell, the Big Four picked up 15.31%. So again, the instinctive feeling is confirmed by the figures, but not by enough to make it significant.

What does emerge from those figures, though, is that Manchester United's performances in the opening half-dozen games of the season are weaker than might be expected. They may have collected 15 points from their first six games last year, but that is their best haul in the past decade, and in 2002-03 they collected only seven. Over the last 10 seasons, United have gathered only 13.8% of their total points in the first six games.

So when the fixture list is released, while it may be a slight disadvantage to play a promoted team early, what a side should really be looking for is an early game against Manchester United.

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I SEE. All I can say is, easy games or not, Chelsea's first real test lies in this weekend's fixture against Man City, a game for which I can see the large majority of [livejournal.com profile] ontd_football temporarily abandoning their "Shitty City" stance and rooting for them :-P I bloody hope we win. >.<
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Date: 2010-09-21 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] n720.livejournal.com
It will really suck if we lose against the big 3.. or 4..

But I certainly believe we are capable of winning against the bigger teams. Either way, a loss helps us too.. mentally.

Date: 2010-09-21 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewunderland.livejournal.com
Well even if they did play against not so good teams, you can't deny how good they played as a collective, how smart and how fit they were. I think they will be a hard team to beat for the big 4.

Date: 2010-09-21 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultraelectric.livejournal.com
omg so many numbers my head exploded.

i love that photo.

Date: 2010-09-21 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisex.livejournal.com
Feet on the floor but I believe we can beat anyone but we must be prepared psychologically because the tendency is to complicate everything, especially against the big games.
but I am confident :)

Date: 2010-09-21 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashleyellisx.livejournal.com
If we did the same last season against the 'top 4' teams this season then I would be a very very happy girl.

So yeah.

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Date: 2010-09-21 03:46 pm (UTC)
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I wanna post this too

Image

Date: 2010-09-21 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] n720.livejournal.com
omg hahahahahaha

WHERE IS THIS FROM

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Date: 2010-09-21 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvallthis.livejournal.com
Predictable criticism about Chelsea's start
Haters gonna hate

Jokes aside, I know the team hasn't faced the big ones yet. But I don't think there's no reason to feel at least a bit confident about this season :]

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seeing liverpool fifth from the bottom

Date: 2010-09-21 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] youth-depraved.livejournal.com
breaks my heart, tbqh

Date: 2010-09-21 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raichelisic.livejournal.com
When is Bosingwa going to come back btw? I miss him at the NT as well. :(

Date: 2010-09-21 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blueforever10.livejournal.com
I think he is supposed to play a reserve game this week or next...

Date: 2010-09-21 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wall-upper.livejournal.com
imho, chelsea are good because they can do what other teams seem incapable of--beating teams they really should beat comfortably. sure it is great if you can scrape points against rivals, but at the end of the day the majority of the "top four"'s points are going to come from playing other teams in the league.

Date: 2010-09-21 05:13 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2010-09-21 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-lunacy.livejournal.com
Who will they lose for ACN?

Date: 2010-09-21 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inesdelsol.livejournal.com
We're gonna win against big 3 whoever they might be this year [ManU, Arsenal, and who? Spurs? ManC? sorry LFC, 5th from the bottom? f* disgrace] anyway, easy start , tough start... it doesn't matter. We cannot judge yet but still we are good, better than we were last season. Hope it's gonna last. And yeah - hater gonna hate. It's so easy to hate Chelsea.

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Date: 2010-09-21 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abfabregas.livejournal.com
god i wouldnt know WHO to root for in the chelsea-city match. hoping for a draw and for both sides to spontaneously combust :)

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Date: 2010-09-21 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamingenigma.livejournal.com
Chelsea HAS had it easy. they played us in the Community Shield right before the season started and lost. that says something to me.

i can't in good conscience cheer for City, even if they're playing Chelsea. the best i could hope for is a 0-0 draw, but LOL not hoping for it.

and Man Utd always start out kinda slow, i've gotten used to it. doesn't mean i find it less frustrating, though.

Date: 2010-09-21 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] potterpie.livejournal.com
but the community was vvvv early i don't think many players had even trained enough to judge

but ia they have had it easy. but the fact that they're doing so well still frustrates me so much i mean it could've been 10-0 on sunday

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Date: 2010-09-21 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anais-molko.livejournal.com
oh hell no you MUST win against City no matter fucking what

Date: 2010-09-21 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] potterpie.livejournal.com
idkkkk i really wanna see them dropping points tho!

a draw for me

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Date: 2010-09-21 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anais-molko.livejournal.com
anyway, yeah yeah easy start but it doesn't change the fact that Chelsea became a goal scoring machine (specially knowing the fact they have an old squad)

Date: 2010-09-21 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] problematique.livejournal.com
excuse me i want to see drogba score a double hat trick on city and jizz rainbows on the pitch ty

Date: 2010-09-21 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wambamstolevan.livejournal.com
nah, i hope both lose.

Date: 2010-09-21 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carminaburana.livejournal.com
Image (http://tinypic.com?ref=20sax09)

Date: 2010-09-21 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jada-casi1.livejournal.com
I am loving all these articles somehow nitpicking Chelsea because they're having a great start. Whatever, KTBFFH!! :D

Date: 2010-09-21 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hi-mimi.livejournal.com
Chelsea. How do I even begin to explain Chelsea?
Chelsea is flawless.
They have Salamon Kalou and John Terry.
I hear Drogba's left leg is insured for a million pounds.
I hear that their subs bench is plated, with gold.
Their favourite manager was once The Special One.
One time Bill Clinton went to a game,
And he told them they were pretty.
One time they beat Man City 6 - 0.
It was awesome.

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Date: 2010-09-21 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slashxwhoreorly.livejournal.com
I'll root for Chelsea because I root for Shitty

Date: 2010-09-22 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluemeadow13.livejournal.com
keep being amazing chelsea

Date: 2010-09-22 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tonstant-weader.livejournal.com
Bah, I'm a statistician and between other variables like friendlies, injuries, age/experience, etc., etc. there's only so much you can predict like this article is trying/stretching.

But I watch them...and they play football well. They pass well. They read well. They make opportunities and finish well. They have strong players in a physical league. When the defense gets holes, Cech saves well. They're not going to be on top forever (probably not even that much longer given the average age) but they'll do well this season as long as they keep playing well. No math, just logic.

KTBFFH - I'm waking up ass early to see these boys on Sunday so idc who they're playing, effing WIN.
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