Yes, France seems to have great connections which they don't know how to use well sometimes.
I was basically following it since it started with "something is happening in Turkey, they are soldiers on two bridges???" moment. Around the time Erdogan was on the television via face-time Kerry said (idk if it was shortly before or after) that he hopes for stability, peace, continuity in Turkey and then some American senators started going on how now the ~~real democracy~~ will be in Turkey (there was a whole fight about it on Twitter). People went on how it shows that the US in backing "New Egypt".
Kerry later said that all in Turkey should support democratically-elected government. I was almost falling asleep at this point but people were tearing him apart for waiting until Erdogan was winning. They were also praising the EU for saving face because they reacted way before the US.
And people were also mentioning an article from May where Newsweek republished the analysis of a former Pentagon official who concluded that, should elements in the Turkish military stage a coup, they would “get away with it.” (I was too lazy to Google).
And pro-American Egyptian outlets (I do not understand the language so I follow translators into English and Polish) started spreading rumours that Erdogan was flying to Germany to ask for a refugee there, got denied ans went to the UK instead.
There's also a question who the Gulen guy is because most of people try to show him as "modern man" but apparently he' also has sinister reputation and is pro-radical Islam. And the US only reacted when his journalists were jailed in Turkey not any others.
There were lots of talk last night about whether or not this meant the rebels had gotten international backing or not or the promise of it, and one of the arguments in favor of Erdogan planning this.
The coup was very different from all the others because no party was backing this and everyone (even Kurds) asked people not to join it (which didn't happen in '97).
And then suddenly Erdogan fires over 2k judges which is questionable at least.
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Date: 2016-07-16 09:54 pm (UTC)I was basically following it since it started with "something is happening in Turkey, they are soldiers on two bridges???" moment. Around the time Erdogan was on the television via face-time Kerry said (idk if it was shortly before or after) that he hopes for stability, peace, continuity in Turkey and then some American senators started going on how now the ~~real democracy~~ will be in Turkey (there was a whole fight about it on Twitter). People went on how it shows that the US in backing "New Egypt".
Kerry later said that all in Turkey should support democratically-elected government. I was almost falling asleep at this point but people were tearing him apart for waiting until Erdogan was winning. They were also praising the EU for saving face because they reacted way before the US.
And people were also mentioning an article from May where Newsweek republished the analysis of a former Pentagon official who concluded that, should elements in the Turkish military stage a coup, they would “get away with it.” (I was too lazy to Google).
And pro-American Egyptian outlets (I do not understand the language so I follow translators into English and Polish) started spreading rumours that Erdogan was flying to Germany to ask for a refugee there, got denied ans went to the UK instead.
There's also a question who the Gulen guy is because most of people try to show him as "modern man" but apparently he' also has sinister reputation and is pro-radical Islam. And the US only reacted when his journalists were jailed in Turkey not any others.
There were lots of talk last night about whether or not this meant the rebels had gotten international backing or not or the promise of it, and one of the arguments in favor of Erdogan planning this.
The coup was very different from all the others because no party was backing this and everyone (even Kurds) asked people not to join it (which didn't happen in '97).
And then suddenly Erdogan fires over 2k judges which is questionable at least.